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AB EOYT 2018

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    Bovidae
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    Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

    Hookers
    Dane Coles
    Nathan Harris
    Codie Taylor

    Props
    Owen Franks
    Joe Moody
    Tim Perry
    Karl Tu'inukuafe
    Ofa Tuungafasi

    Locks
    Scott Barrett
    Brodie Retallick
    Samuel Whitelock

    Loose Forwards
    Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
    Shannon Frizell
    Jackson Hemopo
    Kieran Read
    Ardie Savea
    Liam Squire
    Luke Whitelock

    Halfbacks
    TJ Perenara
    Aaron Smith
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

    First five-eighths
    Beauden Barrett
    Damian McKenzie
    Richie Mo'unga

    Midfielders
    Ryan Crotty
    Jack Goodhue
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Sonny Bill Williams

    Outside backs
    Jordie Barrett
    Rieko Ioane
    Nehe Milner-Skudder
    Waisake Naholo
    Ben Smith

    So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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    • A akan004

      @cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.

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      @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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        @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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        @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

        @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

        Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

          Hookers
          Dane Coles
          Nathan Harris
          Codie Taylor

          Props
          Owen Franks
          Joe Moody
          Tim Perry
          Karl Tu'inukuafe
          Ofa Tuungafasi

          Locks
          Scott Barrett
          Brodie Retallick
          Samuel Whitelock

          Loose Forwards
          Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
          Shannon Frizell
          Jackson Hemopo
          Kieran Read
          Ardie Savea
          Liam Squire
          Luke Whitelock

          Halfbacks
          TJ Perenara
          Aaron Smith
          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

          First five-eighths
          Beauden Barrett
          Damian McKenzie
          Richie Mo'unga

          Midfielders
          Ryan Crotty
          Jack Goodhue
          Anton Lienert-Brown
          Sonny Bill Williams

          Outside backs
          Jordie Barrett
          Rieko Ioane
          Nehe Milner-Skudder
          Waisake Naholo
          Ben Smith

          So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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          Chris B.
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          @bovidae That will be pretty close.

          I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @bovidae That will be pretty close.

            I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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            @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @bovidae That will be pretty close.

            I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

            NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

              @bovidae That will be pretty close.

              I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

              NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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              @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

              So they give their players plenty of rope.

              But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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                Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

                The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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                  @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                  Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                  @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                    Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                      Hookers
                      Dane Coles
                      Nathan Harris
                      Codie Taylor

                      Props
                      Owen Franks
                      Joe Moody
                      Tim Perry
                      Karl Tu'inukuafe
                      Ofa Tuungafasi

                      Locks
                      Scott Barrett
                      Brodie Retallick
                      Samuel Whitelock

                      Loose Forwards
                      Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                      Shannon Frizell
                      Jackson Hemopo
                      Kieran Read
                      Ardie Savea
                      Liam Squire
                      Luke Whitelock

                      Halfbacks
                      TJ Perenara
                      Aaron Smith
                      Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                      First five-eighths
                      Beauden Barrett
                      Damian McKenzie
                      Richie Mo'unga

                      Midfielders
                      Ryan Crotty
                      Jack Goodhue
                      Anton Lienert-Brown
                      Sonny Bill Williams

                      Outside backs
                      Jordie Barrett
                      Rieko Ioane
                      Nehe Milner-Skudder
                      Waisake Naholo
                      Ben Smith

                      So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                      @bovidae

                      Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                      I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                      I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                      Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                        @bovidae

                        Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                        I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                        I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                        Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                        Nepia
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                        #148

                        @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @bovidae

                        Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                        I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                        I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                        Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                        I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @bovidae

                          Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                          I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                          I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                          Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                          I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                          @nepia

                          But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                            @nepia

                            But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                            @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            @nepia

                            But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                            Um, so. 😉

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                              Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.

                              Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.

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                                Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                                  Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                                  @cgrant said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

                                  Every player with two legs and a pair of footy boots are a chance

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                                    Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Is Abel Australia eligible?

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                                      @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                      Is Abel Australia eligible?

                                      He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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                                        @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        Is Abel Australia eligible?

                                        He is. But if he got signed by NZ super team he’d be AB eligible too.

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                                        @act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @act-crusader He looks like he'd be worth a spot in the Australian squad.

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                                          @tim this stint with the Orcs has done his confidence a world of good. Regular playing time has given him an opportunity to play with a little more freedom and it’s paid off for him and AKL.

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