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AB EOYT 2018

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

    The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
    
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    @kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming

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      All answered here:

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        Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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          Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

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          @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

          Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

          18 players and a halfback

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            Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

            Hookers
            Dane Coles
            Nathan Harris
            Codie Taylor

            Props
            Owen Franks
            Joe Moody
            Tim Perry
            Karl Tu'inukuafe
            Ofa Tuungafasi

            Locks
            Scott Barrett
            Brodie Retallick
            Samuel Whitelock

            Loose Forwards
            Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
            Shannon Frizell
            Jackson Hemopo
            Kieran Read
            Ardie Savea
            Liam Squire
            Luke Whitelock

            Halfbacks
            TJ Perenara
            Aaron Smith
            Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

            First five-eighths
            Beauden Barrett
            Damian McKenzie
            Richie Mo'unga

            Midfielders
            Ryan Crotty
            Jack Goodhue
            Anton Lienert-Brown
            Sonny Bill Williams

            Outside backs
            Jordie Barrett
            Rieko Ioane
            Nehe Milner-Skudder
            Waisake Naholo
            Ben Smith

            So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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            • A akan004

              @cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.

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              @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

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                @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                  Hookers
                  Dane Coles
                  Nathan Harris
                  Codie Taylor

                  Props
                  Owen Franks
                  Joe Moody
                  Tim Perry
                  Karl Tu'inukuafe
                  Ofa Tuungafasi

                  Locks
                  Scott Barrett
                  Brodie Retallick
                  Samuel Whitelock

                  Loose Forwards
                  Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                  Shannon Frizell
                  Jackson Hemopo
                  Kieran Read
                  Ardie Savea
                  Liam Squire
                  Luke Whitelock

                  Halfbacks
                  TJ Perenara
                  Aaron Smith
                  Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                  First five-eighths
                  Beauden Barrett
                  Damian McKenzie
                  Richie Mo'unga

                  Midfielders
                  Ryan Crotty
                  Jack Goodhue
                  Anton Lienert-Brown
                  Sonny Bill Williams

                  Outside backs
                  Jordie Barrett
                  Rieko Ioane
                  Nehe Milner-Skudder
                  Waisake Naholo
                  Ben Smith

                  So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                  @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                  I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

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                    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                    NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @bovidae That will be pretty close.

                      I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

                      NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.

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                      @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

                      So they give their players plenty of rope.

                      But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.

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                        Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

                        The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.

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                          @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

                          Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.

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                          @akan004 I think Strange was more dominant in first few games, while Parkinson has played well in last few (in comparing two)

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                            Parkinson looks to have the best potential of the two. With an addition of 3 or 4 kgs, he could look like BBBR and why not, play like BBBR !

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

                              Hookers
                              Dane Coles
                              Nathan Harris
                              Codie Taylor

                              Props
                              Owen Franks
                              Joe Moody
                              Tim Perry
                              Karl Tu'inukuafe
                              Ofa Tuungafasi

                              Locks
                              Scott Barrett
                              Brodie Retallick
                              Samuel Whitelock

                              Loose Forwards
                              Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
                              Shannon Frizell
                              Jackson Hemopo
                              Kieran Read
                              Ardie Savea
                              Liam Squire
                              Luke Whitelock

                              Halfbacks
                              TJ Perenara
                              Aaron Smith
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

                              First five-eighths
                              Beauden Barrett
                              Damian McKenzie
                              Richie Mo'unga

                              Midfielders
                              Ryan Crotty
                              Jack Goodhue
                              Anton Lienert-Brown
                              Sonny Bill Williams

                              Outside backs
                              Jordie Barrett
                              Rieko Ioane
                              Nehe Milner-Skudder
                              Waisake Naholo
                              Ben Smith

                              So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).

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                              @bovidae

                              Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                              I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                              I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                              Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                                @bovidae

                                Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

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                                @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bovidae

                                Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                                I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  @bovidae

                                  Nepo Laulala will be there, probably ahead of Tim Perry.

                                  I'd pick a proper fourth lock (either Romano or Patrick T) ahead of Jackson Hemopo and Luke Whitelock.

                                  I'm worried that SBW and NMS's lack of pace will be exposed against both England and Ireland by the likes of Elliot Daly, Jonny May, Simon Zebo or Jacob Stockdale. I'd rather see Laumape, Aso or Bridge selected.

                                  Dillon Hunt looks too wee to be a top class international backrow player. Cane and Gibson are injured. Is it too early to pick Dalton Papali'i?

                                  I think he's bigger than Todd and close to Cane's size.

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                                  @nepia

                                  But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                    @nepia

                                    But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

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                                    @sparky said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    @nepia

                                    But Hunt is at least 10 kgs lighter and 10 cms shorter than Dan Leavy.

                                    Um, so. 😉

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                                      Big decision coming up on who is the backup Openside. Dalton Papali'i's chances of making the 32 must have gone up in the last 24 hours.

                                      Interesting to see, as well, if certain experienced backs who have been disappointed in 2018 continue to get selected ahead of promising youngsters.

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                                        Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                                          Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

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                                          @cgrant said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          Has Rayasi a chance to be among the 18,5 players heading to Japan ? He's having an awsome M10 Cup.

                                          Every player with two legs and a pair of footy boots are a chance

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