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  • nzzpN nzzp

    Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

    Yeah group of mates did it a few years back, didn't surface for another 6 months afterwards.

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:

      With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
      But please no Christie.

      Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.

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      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

      @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:

      With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
      But please no Christie.

      Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.

      When we're looking at the 4th choice halfback there will be rough edges. Question is who has the least, or at least fits best with the AB pattern.

      Very few ready made Aaron Smiths out there.

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      • B brodean

        Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

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        @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

        Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

        At their home? You are correct

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

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          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

          Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

          Yes, it would be awesome

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            @nzzp

            At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

            They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

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            @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            @nzzp

            At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

            They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

            They lost twice to a lion-less England side

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              @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nzzp

              At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

              They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

              They lost twice to a lion-less England side

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              @DaGrubster

              They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

              They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

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              • B brodean

                @DaGrubster

                They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

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                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                @DaGrubster

                They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                Didn’t they also put 60ish on Aussie at home? The Argies are a bit like the French, if they turn up we’ll be in for a real fight.

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                • B brodean

                  @DaGrubster

                  They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                  They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

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                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @DaGrubster

                  They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                  They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                  I dont underestimate them.

                  But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

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                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @DaGrubster

                    They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                    They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                    I dont underestimate them.

                    But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

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                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @DaGrubster

                    They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

                    They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

                    I dont underestimate them.

                    But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

                    Contempomi rested more than 10 players from the England series:

                    Gonzalo García, Tomás Albornoz, Joaquín Oviedo, Franco Molina, Joel Sclavi, Mateo Carreras, Bautista Delguy, Juan Cruz Mallía, Santiago Chocobares, Efraín Elías, Guido Petti, Gerónimo Prisciantelli, Ignacio Calles, Eduardo Bello, Ignacio Ruiz, Marcos Kremer.

                    Not suggesting that they had more firepower out than England, but it was far from a full-strength team.

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                      On the Fainga'anuku sitch:

                      New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.

                      So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.

                      http://thepost.co.nz/sport/360765638/why-returning-all-black-leicester-faingaanuku-unlikely-be-picked-rugby-championship

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                        On the Fainga'anuku sitch:

                        New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.

                        So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.

                        http://thepost.co.nz/sport/360765638/why-returning-all-black-leicester-faingaanuku-unlikely-be-picked-rugby-championship

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                        @Mr-Fish Which is fine by me.

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                          I think Hotham may go past ratima , to me it just looks like his execution is crisper .

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                            Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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                              The 4-4-4 Plan.

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                                Rugby Pass is reporting that Leicester won't get an exemption for TRC unless we are decimated by injuries

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                                  From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                  Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

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                                    Christie might be viewed as the safe option, given his experience but it’d be a wasted selection. He won’t be at the World Cup, he’ll come off the bench and add nothing and there’s an opportunity here to see what other players have to offer if they get an opportunity.

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                                      From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                      Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                      Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                                      Send Fakatava. I want to see what impact he can bring off the bench

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                                      • H hikastags

                                        Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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                                        @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                        The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

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                                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                          The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                          The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

                                          At least as good as the coaching in Ireland.

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