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Blues 2021

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  • N Nogusta

    @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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    @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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    • TimT Tim

      @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

      @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

      Kid looks good.

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        If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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          @Stargazer he'd be selected as a lock for the canes though eh?

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            wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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              @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

              wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

              I agree, based on what I have seen. His performance against Northland was top notch (sorry @taniwharugby )

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                He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                  He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                  @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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                    #210

                    I would guess it's about signing a younger halfback like Funaki

                    If they signed all 3 established halfbacks another franchise might've given Funaki a full contract. In the short term it could be a bit of a risk though

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                      wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

                      Agreed.
                      This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                        Props

                        Tu'inukuafe
                        Hodgman
                        N Mayhew
                        O Tu'ungafasi
                        Laulala
                        Renata

                        Hookers

                        Parsons
                        Eklund
                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                        Locks

                        Tuipulotu
                        Pierce
                        Goodhue
                        Cowley-Tuioti
                        Darry

                        Loose forwards

                        Gibson
                        Hunt
                        Papalii
                        Robinson
                        Sotutu
                        A Ioane
                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                        Halfbacks

                        Nock
                        Christie
                        Ruru

                        1st Five Eighths

                        Black
                        Perofeta
                        Plummer
                        Heighton

                        Midfield

                        Faiane
                        T Tele'a
                        R Ioane
                        TBC

                        Outside Backs

                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                        M Telea
                        Narawa
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                        That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                        Out:

                        Lindenmuth
                        Mafileo
                        Carroll
                        Lamborn
                        Tucker
                        Barrett
                        Marchent
                        Hyland
                        Duffie
                        Page

                        In:

                        N Mayhew
                        Laulala
                        Darry
                        Hunt
                        TBC (midfield)
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Provincial breakdown:

                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                        Counties - 2
                        BOP - 3
                        Ta$man - 3
                        Canterbury - 1
                        Taranaki - 2

                        Match XXIII

                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Eklund
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Tuipulotu
                        5 Pierce
                        6 A Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Sotutu

                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                        10 Black
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Faiane
                        13 R Ioane
                        14 M Telea
                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                        16 Parsons
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                        21 Christie
                        22 Plummer
                        23 T Tele'a

                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                        @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                          He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                          @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

                          Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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                            I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                              @Crazy-Horse He wasn't great in his last two games coming off injury, but before the injury, he was maybe the form winger in the M10.

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                                @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                                I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                                Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                                  Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                                    @Tim Hasn't been on, yet.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                                      @Tim It's more a group discussion about several subjects thus far.

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                                        Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                          @Stargazer surely they don't sign Lam and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens? Idk I'm just hopeful he plays for the Chiefs.

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