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  • S Steven Harris

    Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

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    #176

    @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2021:

    Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

    Good to see another Napier boy getting a SR contract.

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      Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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        #178

        https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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          https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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          @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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            https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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            @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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              #181

              A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

                @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

                If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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                  #183

                  Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                  Props

                  Tu'inukuafe
                  Hodgman
                  N Mayhew
                  O Tu'ungafasi
                  Laulala
                  Renata

                  Hookers

                  Parsons
                  Eklund
                  Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                  Locks

                  Tuipulotu
                  Pierce
                  Goodhue
                  Cowley-Tuioti
                  Darry

                  Loose forwards

                  Gibson
                  Hunt
                  Papalii
                  Robinson
                  Sotutu
                  A Ioane
                  Riedlinger-Kapa

                  Halfbacks

                  Nock
                  Christie
                  Ruru

                  1st Five Eighths

                  Black
                  Perofeta
                  Plummer
                  Heighton

                  Midfield

                  Faiane
                  T Tele'a
                  R Ioane
                  TBC

                  Outside Backs

                  Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                  M Telea
                  Narawa
                  AJ Lam
                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                  Sullivan

                  Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                  38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                  Out:

                  Lindenmuth
                  Mafileo
                  Carroll
                  Lamborn
                  Tucker
                  Barrett
                  Marchent
                  Hyland
                  Duffie
                  Page

                  In:

                  N Mayhew
                  Laulala
                  Darry
                  Hunt
                  TBC (midfield)
                  AJ Lam
                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                  Sullivan

                  Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                  North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                  Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                  Counties - 2
                  BOP - 3
                  Ta$man - 3
                  Canterbury - 1
                  Taranaki - 2

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    #184

                    Match XXIII

                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                    1 Hodgman
                    2 Eklund
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Tuipulotu
                    5 Pierce
                    6 A Ioane
                    7 Papalii
                    8 Sotutu

                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                    10 Black
                    11 Clarke
                    12 Faiane
                    13 R Ioane
                    14 M Telea
                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                    16 Parsons
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                    21 Christie
                    22 Plummer
                    23 T Tele'a

                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Match XXIII

                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                      1 Hodgman
                      2 Eklund
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Tuipulotu
                      5 Pierce
                      6 A Ioane
                      7 Papalii
                      8 Sotutu

                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                      10 Black
                      11 Clarke
                      12 Faiane
                      13 R Ioane
                      14 M Telea
                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                      16 Parsons
                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                      21 Christie
                      22 Plummer
                      23 T Tele'a

                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                      Match XIII

                      Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                        @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                        Match XIII

                        Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                        Tim
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                        #186

                        @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                          MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                            Tim
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                            Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                              Tim
                              wrote on last edited by Tim
                              #189

                              With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                              Props

                              Tu'inukuafe
                              Hodgman
                              N Mayhew
                              O Tu'ungafasi
                              Laulala
                              Renata

                              Hookers

                              Parsons
                              Eklund
                              Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                              Locks

                              Tuipulotu
                              Pierce
                              Goodhue
                              Cowley-Tuioti
                              Darry

                              Loose forwards

                              Gibson
                              Hunt
                              Papalii
                              Robinson
                              Sotutu
                              A Ioane
                              Riedlinger-Kapa

                              Halfbacks

                              Nock
                              Christie
                              Ruru

                              1st Five Eighths

                              Black
                              Perofeta
                              Plummer
                              Heighton

                              Midfield

                              Faiane
                              T Tele'a
                              R Ioane
                              TBC

                              Outside Backs

                              Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                              M Telea
                              Narawa
                              AJ Lam
                              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                              Sullivan

                              Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                              That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                              Out:

                              Lindenmuth
                              Mafileo
                              Carroll
                              Lamborn
                              Tucker
                              Barrett
                              Marchent
                              Hyland
                              Duffie
                              Page

                              In:

                              N Mayhew
                              Laulala
                              Darry
                              Hunt
                              TBC (midfield)
                              AJ Lam
                              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                              Sullivan

                              Provincial breakdown:

                              Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                              North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                              Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                              Counties - 2
                              BOP - 3
                              Ta$man - 3
                              Canterbury - 1
                              Taranaki - 2

                              Match XXIII

                              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                              1 Hodgman
                              2 Eklund
                              3 Laulala
                              4 Tuipulotu
                              5 Pierce
                              6 A Ioane
                              7 Papalii
                              8 Sotutu

                              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                              10 Black
                              11 Clarke
                              12 Faiane
                              13 R Ioane
                              14 M Telea
                              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                              16 Parsons
                              17 Tu'inukuafe
                              18 Tu'ungafasi
                              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                              21 Christie
                              22 Plummer
                              23 T Tele'a

                              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                              Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                Props

                                Tu'inukuafe
                                Hodgman
                                N Mayhew
                                O Tu'ungafasi
                                Laulala
                                Renata

                                Hookers

                                Parsons
                                Eklund
                                Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                Locks

                                Tuipulotu
                                Pierce
                                Goodhue
                                Cowley-Tuioti
                                Darry

                                Loose forwards

                                Gibson
                                Hunt
                                Papalii
                                Robinson
                                Sotutu
                                A Ioane
                                Riedlinger-Kapa

                                Halfbacks

                                Nock
                                Christie
                                Ruru

                                1st Five Eighths

                                Black
                                Perofeta
                                Plummer
                                Heighton

                                Midfield

                                Faiane
                                T Tele'a
                                R Ioane
                                TBC

                                Outside Backs

                                Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                M Telea
                                Narawa
                                AJ Lam
                                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                Sullivan

                                Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                Out:

                                Lindenmuth
                                Mafileo
                                Carroll
                                Lamborn
                                Tucker
                                Barrett
                                Marchent
                                Hyland
                                Duffie
                                Page

                                In:

                                N Mayhew
                                Laulala
                                Darry
                                Hunt
                                TBC (midfield)
                                AJ Lam
                                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                Sullivan

                                Provincial breakdown:

                                Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                Counties - 2
                                BOP - 3
                                Ta$man - 3
                                Canterbury - 1
                                Taranaki - 2

                                Match XXIII

                                Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                1 Hodgman
                                2 Eklund
                                3 Laulala
                                4 Tuipulotu
                                5 Pierce
                                6 A Ioane
                                7 Papalii
                                8 Sotutu

                                9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                10 Black
                                11 Clarke
                                12 Faiane
                                13 R Ioane
                                14 M Telea
                                15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                16 Parsons
                                17 Tu'inukuafe
                                18 Tu'ungafasi
                                19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                21 Christie
                                22 Plummer
                                23 T Tele'a

                                With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                  @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                  As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                  @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                  As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                  really?

                                  Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                    really?

                                    Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                    #192

                                    @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                                      What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                        What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                        @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                                        Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                                          Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                          NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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